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1928 45" 101 Scout  - going for correct period look

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by owner/restorer
Greg Cooney
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Part One - Preliminaries and the case of the missing 'P'
MVC-871S.JPG (33572 bytes)MVC-875S.JPG (44503 bytes)This is another one of my basket cases to be completed concurrently with my '35 Chief project.  It was purchased from Sth Africa from another 101 Association member who is putting his talents towards pre '29 Harley projects.
He was working on a HD 1919 Model and just completed a '24 with sidecar and has a '24 Indian Scout to busy him, so his 101 Indian had to go.. fortunately it go-ed to ME!.

 

MVC-873S.JPG (36259 bytes)MVC-879S.JPG (39763 bytes)The motor serial is CG 610 which tells me its originally from a '28 short frame model. (see notes in my serial database). It also has the lighter primary from a 1920 scout but since I already have a correct 101 primary that  will be exchanged.
It doesn't matter too much about the motor as I have a 45ci motor that I will rebuild for this project. Since  that motor is not with me yet it's speculative what it is, but from what the prev owner knows and what's been described since, plus the fact it supposedly  has the correct for '33 DLX99 Schebler carb, so myr guess is a '33 45" Scout.  It's  all made more difficult cos the cases only bear the numbers 8519, no FCC which it would have had if '33!!.. The motor's complete, but seized, and cases damaged, and heads and cylinders all need fin repairs. I will reuse the cylinders and heads but see below for explanation on why I'll change the cases (apart from the fact the magneto housing is fu*ked!) to retain wet sump & correct identity.
 
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my old 101 project to now become a chout project..Actually I already have a 101 project that may now be my Chout bobber project (see my inspirational picture below), as the frame needs much work anyway and I already have a spare Chief motor and trans to dedicate.  It has forks, both fenders, 37" motor and trans, primary, and well as you can see not much else!!. The little flathead to the left of it is a J.A.P (english - John .A. Prestwich of racing engine fame) gp industrial unit from the fifties that still does everything from running a generator to mincing paua (abalone)!

 

this is Ben's, a mate of mines Chout which inspired me to do one. he began this some time ago...The strange and somewhat fortunate thing about this motor, not the 45", Im back to the first one from my first 101 now, is it has excellent cases and the serial number was originally DGP2307. Somewhere along the course of its 73 year history, either the cases were replaced or someone fitted up 37ci internals, barrels and heads etc and filed off the 'P' to make it DG  2307.
You can just make out the faint P. So there's room to re-stamp (oooh the crowd roars.!) the legitimate 'P' back again, then with the rest of the parts from my 45 incher, I'll end up with a correct for '28, ('29's start at DGP4318) - 45" DGP 2307!!. neat aye!. CG 610 will then be for sale or trade.

Enough of that one, lets get back to this one....

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It has a very good frame and sound sheet metal, though I'll likely use the tin ware off my other 101 as I know they are excellent and they have the mounting struts etc. The tank, tank fittings, front drum/hub, brake plate and hollow axles etc are reproductions, exact origin unknown but I'm told very good quality and were purchased from Alan Forbes at Motolux in Scotland.


Above: My Cousin Frank sitting on my Uncle Charlies '28 or '29 101

For the purists it does come with an original useable front wheel hub purchased since the repro one. On the rear end I'll use a NOS 741 wheel until I can get a correct one, at least it'll get her rolling... (I can exchange the front one, (no brake parts) for a rear....anybody?...)
The new front hub has been laced with SS spokes onto a clincher rim, its highly likely I'll redo that onto a drop center rim. The main reason being I will be riding it and after taking a big spill on my 741 after an under-inflated rear wheel (non clincher even) several years ago, I am very nervous about them, besides clincher tires are extinct here in NZ.

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Well look for many more articles over the months as things progress...

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Goto Part 2 - The unpacking, Inventory and Mock up

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