| Year |
Model |
Eng.Number |
Cyls. |
H.P |
Frame Number |
Notes |
| 1953 |
353 |
CS61001-CS62500+ |
2 |
|
CS61001-CS62500+ |
last batch of 53's where a large sequence of
serials were skipped |
| 1953 |
353 |
CS6501-CS6999 |
2 |
|
CS6501-CS6999 |
'Chief' 53, serials above 6500 accepted as
53 if registration supports. |
| 1952 |
352 |
CS6001-CS6500 |
2 |
|
CS6001-CS6500 |
'Chief' 52, up to 6500 whether '52 or '53
may depend on registration? |
| 1952 |
? |
BB1001T- |
2 |
|
B1001T- |
'Warrior TT', last model year |
| 1952 |
? |
CS4001- |
2 |
|
CS4001- |
'Warrior', last model year, Warrior Patrols (3
wheeler for Police/FD) |
| 1951 |
351 |
C4001-C4500 |
2 |
|
C4001-C4500 |
'Chief' 80ci, the last of the eighty's without
yr confusion! |
| 1951 |
651? |
FEA101-? |
2 |
|
FEA101-? |
''Dispatch Tow' Scout, NYC Fire Dept Only?,
note 14 |
| 1951 |
? |
B1001T- |
2 |
|
B1001T- |
'Warrior TT', frame sequence continues thru '52 |
| 1951 |
? |
B101- |
2 |
|
B101- |
'Warrior' |
| 1950 |
350 |
C2001-C2500 |
2 |
|
C2001-C2500 |
'Chief' 80ci, 2nd series, #'s changed,
C2441-C2500 to PDNYC Police |
| 1950 |
350 |
CEJ1001-CEJ1500 |
2 |
|
3501001-3501500 |
'Chief' 80ci (1320cc), first year for
telescopic forks, 1st series |
| 1950 |
? |
BEJ1001- |
2 |
|
2501001T- |
'Warrior TT', 30.50ci (500cc) |
| 1950 |
? |
BEJ101- |
2 |
|
250101- |
'Warrior', 30.50ci (500cc) |
| 1950 |
250 |
BBEJ1001- |
2 |
|
22501001- |
Scout', last model year |
| 1950 |
150 |
AAEJ1001- |
1 |
|
11501001- |
Arrow', last model year |
| 1949 |
349 |
CDI1001- |
2 |
|
3491001- |
Chief, very limited production, serials inflated |
| 1949 |
249 |
BDI101- |
2 |
|
249101- |
Scout', 26ci, (440cc), first vertical twin |
| 1949 |
149 |
ADI101- |
1 |
|
149101- |
Arrow', 13ci, (220cc), first vertical single |
| 1948 |
348 |
CDH101- |
2 |
|
348101- |
Chief', new frame, new oil pump etc |
| 1948 |
648 |
FDH101-150 |
2 |
|
648101-150 |
45" Daytona 'big base' Scout.
note 13 |
| 1947 |
347 |
CDG101- |
2 |
|
347101- |
'Chief', no other models |
| 1946 |
346 |
CDF101- |
2 |
|
346101- |
'Chief', new girder forks, no other models |
| 1945 |
345 |
CDE101- |
2 |
|
345101- |
'Chief' limited production, |
| 1944 |
344 |
CDD101- |
2 |
|
344101- |
'Chief', no other models, all military? |
| 1943 |
343 |
CDC101- |
2 |
|
343101- |
'Chief', very limited civilian production, last
of 741's, high serials |
| 1942 |
442 |
DDB101- |
4 |
|
442101- |
Indian 4, the last year of the 4ours.. |
| 1942 |
342 |
CDB101- |
2 |
|
342101- |
'Chief', 74ci |
| 1942 |
642 |
FDB101- |
2 |
|
642101- |
45" 'Sport Scout', last year of the SS/SSDT,
Daytona in '48 |
| 1942 |
542 |
EDB101- |
2 |
|
542101- |
30.50ci 'Junior Scout' |
| 1941 |
441 |
DDA101- |
4 |
|
441101- |
Indian 4, 78ci |
| 1941 |
341 |
CDA101- |
2 |
|
341101- |
'Chief', 74ci |
| 1941 |
841 |
HDA101- |
2 |
|
841101- |
Military, 841, 45ci transverse, shaft drive |
| 1941 |
641 |
FDA101- |
2 |
|
641101- |
45" 'Sport Scout' and DT's |
| 1941 |
741 |
GDA101- |
2 |
|
741101- |
Military 741(b) lightweight 30.50ci
note 6 |
| 1941 |
541 |
EDA101- |
2 |
|
541101- |
30.50ci 'Junior Scout' |
| 1940 |
440 |
DDO101- |
4 |
|
440101- |
Indian 4, 78ci |
| 1940 |
340 |
CAV101- |
2 |
|
CAV101- |
CAV=Continental
Army Vehicle (aka Military Chief,
Canadian) |
| 1940 |
340 |
CDO101- |
2 |
|
340101- |
'Chief', incl Military, except Canada |
| 1940 |
640 |
FDO101- |
2 |
|
640101- |
45" 'Sport Scout'
and Military 640 Scouts note 6 |
| 1940 |
540 |
EDO101- |
2 |
|
540101- |
30.50ci 'Scout Pony' renamed 'Thirty-Fifty' |
| 1939 |
439 |
DCI101- |
4 |
|
439101- |
Indian 4 |
| 1939 |
339 |
CCI101- |
2 |
|
339101- |
'Chief' 74ci |
| 1939 |
639 |
FCI101- |
2 |
|
639101- |
45" 'Sport Scout' and Dispatch Tows (DT) |
| 1939 |
539 |
ECI101- |
2 |
|
539101- |
30.50ci 'Junior Scout' |
| 1938 |
438 |
DCH101- |
4 |
|
438101- |
Indian 4, 78ci |
| 1938 |
338 |
CCH101- |
2 |
|
338101- |
'Chief' 74ci |
| 1938 |
638 |
FCH101- |
2 |
|
638101- |
45" 'Sport Scout' and Dispatch Tows
|
| 1938 |
538 |
ECH101- |
2 |
|
538101- |
30.50ci 'Junior Scout' |
| 1937 |
437 |
DCG101- |
4 |
|
437101- |
Indian 4, 78ci |
| 1937 |
337 |
CCG101- |
2 |
|
337101- |
'Chief' 74ci |
| 1937 |
637 |
FCG101- |
2 |
|
637101- |
45" 'Sport Scout' and Dispatch Tows
|
| 1937 |
237 |
BCG101- |
2 |
|
237101- |
45" Std 'Scout' last model year |
| 1937 |
537 |
ECG101- |
2 |
|
537101- |
30.50ci 'Junior Scout' renamed 'Scout Pony' |
| 1936 |
436 |
DCF101- |
4 |
|
436101- |
Indian 4, 78ci
|
| 1936 |
336 |
CCF101- |
2 |
|
336101- |
'Chief' ,74ci |
| 1936 |
636 |
FCF101- |
2 |
|
636101- |
45" 'Sport Scout' and Dispatch Tows |
| 1936 |
236 |
BCF101- |
2 |
|
236101- |
45" Std 'Scout' |
| 1936 |
536 |
ECF101- |
2 |
|
536101- |
30.50ci 'Junior Scout' |
| 1935 |
435 |
DCE101- |
4 |
|
435101- |
Indian 4, 78ci |
| 1935 |
335 |
CCE101- |
2 |
|
335101- |
'Chief' 74ci |
| 1935 |
635 |
FCE101- |
2 |
|
635101- |
45" 'Sport Scout' and Dispatch Tows
note 14 |
| 1935 |
235 |
BCE101- |
2 |
|
235101- |
45" Std 'Scout' |
| 1935 |
535 |
ECE101- |
2 |
|
535101- |
30.50ci 'Junior Scout' |
| 1934 |
434 |
DCD101- |
4 |
|
434101- |
Indian 4, 78ci |
| 1934 |
334 |
CCD101- |
2 |
|
334101- |
'Chief' ,74ci |
| 1934 |
634 |
FCD101- |
2 |
|
634101- |
45" 'Sport Scout', 1st yr with new keystone
frame |
| 1934 |
234 |
BCD101- |
2 |
|
234101- |
45" Std 'Scout' (still
chief frame] |
| 1934 |
534 |
ECD101- |
2 |
5.0 |
534101- |
30.50ci 'Junior Scout' |
| 1933 |
433 |
DCC101- |
4 |
|
433101- |
Indian 4, 78ci (1278cc) |
| 1933 |
333 |
CCC101- |
2 |
|
333101- |
'Chief' 74ci |
| 1933 |
633 |
FCC101- |
2 |
|
633101- |
1yr only 45ci 'Motoplane' (in Jr Scout frame) |
| 1933 |
233 |
BCC101- |
2 |
|
233101- |
45" Std 'Scout' |
| 1933 |
533 |
ECC101- |
2 |
5.0 |
533101- |
30.50ci 'Junior Scout' |
| 1932 |
403 |
DOC101- |
4 |
|
403101- |
Indian 4, 78ci |
| 1932 |
EOC/503 |
EOC101- |
2 |
5.0 |
503101- |
'Junior' or 'Pony' Scouts begin, 30.5ci
(500cc) 101 mo end |
| 1932 |
COC/303 |
COC101- |
2 |
8.5 |
303101- |
Chief ,74" |
| 1932 |
BOC/203 |
BOC101- |
2 |
6.61 |
203101- |
Std 'Scout' 45" in Chief frame, |
| 1931 |
HEP/302 |
EH1536- |
2 |
8.5 |
H1410- |
Chief, 74" |
| 1931 |
GP/101 |
EGP3081- |
2 |
6.61 |
G4050 |
101 Scout 45", also first service car.
[last year] |
| 1931 |
G/101 |
EG925- |
2 |
6.05 |
SI346- |
101 Scout 37", frame numbers
continue note 9 |
| 1931 |
402 |
EA776-EA1509 |
4 |
12.10 |
-none- |
Indian 4, sequence continues to 11/1/31 |
| 1930 |
HEP/302 |
EH100-EH1535 |
2 |
8.45 |
-none- |
Chief 74", sequence continues to 11/1/31 |
| 1930 |
GP/101 |
EGP100-EGP3080 |
2 |
6.61 |
-none- |
101 Scout 45" ,sequence continues 11/1/31 |
| 1930 |
G/101 |
EG100-EG924 |
2 |
6.05 |
none-SI322 note
9 |
101 Scout 37", continues to 11/1/31, late '30
frame no's commence |
| 1930 |
402 |
EAXXX-EA775 |
4 |
12.10 |
-none- |
Indian 4, sequence continues to 11/1/31
|
| 1929 |
GEP/101 |
DGP4318- |
2 |
6.61 |
-none- |
45" 101 Scout |
| 1929 |
GE/101 |
DG2638- |
2 |
6.05 |
-none- |
37" 101 Scout |
| 1929 |
402 |
EA100-EAXXX |
4 |
12.10 |
-none- |
Indian 4, after 6/1/29
changes to EA series, which lasts till '31 |
| 1929 |
402 |
DA701-DAXXX |
4 |
12.10 |
-none- |
Indian 4. up to 6/1/29 then
changes to EA100 and up |
| 1929 |
HEP/301 |
CH2225- |
2 |
8.45 |
-none- |
'Chief' 74ci, CH numbers
continue to 11/12/29 |
| 1928 |
GEP/101 |
DGP100-DGP4317 |
2 |
6.61 |
-none- |
45" 101 Scout changeover yr from sf scout,
mostly assumed '29 |
| 1928 |
GE/101 |
DG100-DG2637 |
2 |
6.05 |
-none- |
37" 101 Scout changeover fm short frame (sf)
scout assumed '29 |
| 1928 |
-none- |
CZ100- |
2 |
7.81 |
-none- |
'Chief' 61ci,
[last yr] |
| 1928 |
LE/201 |
CL100- |
1 |
3.03 |
-none- |
'Prince' 21ci [last yr] |
| 1928 |
-none-? |
CH100-CH2224 |
2 |
8.45 |
-none- |
'Big Chief' 74ci, to 3/15/28 then model change
to HEP/301 |
| 1928 |
-none- |
CGP1762- |
2 |
6.61 |
-none- |
101 Scout 45" change to 45" 101?
note 7 |
| 1928 |
-none- |
CGP100-CGP-1761 |
2 |
6.61 |
-none- |
Scout 45" to 3/15/28 change to 45" 101?
CGP444+ note 5 |
| 1928 |
-none- |
CG2385- |
2 |
6.05 |
-none- |
101 Scout 37" to 3/15/28 then change to 37" 101.
|
| 1928 |
-none- |
CG100-CG2384 |
2 |
6.05 |
-none- |
Scout 37" to 3/15/28 then change to 37" 101.
note 7 |
| 1928 |
402 |
DA100-DA700 |
4 |
12.10 |
-none- |
Ace name dropped, model added, serial CA-DA
change 6/1/29 |
| 1928 |
Ace |
CA100-CAXXX |
4 |
12.10 |
-none- |
Indian 'Ace' to 8/1/28, DA101-DA700
are also 1928. note 10 |
| 1927 |
Ace |
VF100- |
4 |
12.10 |
-none- |
First Indian 'Ace' 4 cyl,78ci, and poss E1100
up note 11 |
| 1927 |
-none- |
BZ100- |
2 |
7.81 |
-none- |
'Chief' 61ci (1000cc) |
| 1927 |
-none- |
BL100- |
2 |
3.03 |
-none- |
'Prince' 21ci |
| 1927 |
-none- |
BH100- |
2 |
8.45 |
-none- |
'Big Chief" 74ci |
| 1927 |
-none- |
BGP100- |
2 |
6.61 |
-none- |
Scout' 45ci (750cc) |
| 1927 |
-none- |
BG100- |
2 |
6.05 |
-none- |
'Scout' 37ci (600cc), last pedestal eng mounts
before though-bolt |
| 1926 |
-none- |
AZ100- |
2 |
7.81 |
-none- |
'Chief' 61ci |
| 1926 |
-none- |
AL100- |
1 |
3.03 |
-none- |
'Prince' 21ci |
| 1926 |
-none- |
AH1180 only |
2 |
?? |
-none- |
'Big Chief' 80ci, prototype,
1 only? |
| 1926 |
-none- |
AH100- |
2 |
9 |
-none- |
'Big Chief' 74ci |
| 1926 |
-none- |
AG100- |
2 |
5 |
-none- |
'Scout' 37ci |
| 1925 |
Model Y |
90Y001- |
2 |
9 |
-none- |
'Big Chief' 74ci |
| 1925 |
Model Y |
80Y001- |
2 |
8 |
-none- |
'Chief' 61ci |
| 1925 |
Model Y |
50Y001- |
2 |
5 |
-none- |
'Scout' 37ci |
| 1925 |
Model Y |
30Y001- |
1 |
2.75 |
-none- |
'Prince' 21ci (350cc) single,
[first model yr] |
| 1924 |
Model X |
90X001- |
2 |
9 |
-none- |
'Big Chief' 74ci |
| 1924 |
Model X |
80X001- |
2 |
8 |
-none- |
'Chief' 61ci |
| 1924 |
Model X |
70X001- |
2 |
7 |
-none- |
'Standard' ,last year for the
former Powerplus |
| 1924 |
Model X |
50X001- |
2 |
5 |
-none- |
'Scout' 37ci |
| 1923 |
Model V |
90V001- |
2 |
9 |
-none- |
'Big Chief' 74ci (1200cc) |
| 1923 |
Model V |
80V001- |
2 |
7 |
-none- |
'Chief' 61ci |
| 1923 |
Model V |
70V001 |
2 |
7 |
-none- |
'Standard' (pplus) 61ci
note 12 |
| 1923 |
Model NP |
VP001- |
2 |
8 |
-none- |
'Powerplus' 72ci renamed
'Standard' note 12 |
| 1923 |
Model V |
50V001- |
2 |
5 |
-none- |
'Scout' 37ci |
| 1922 |
Model T |
80T001- |
2 |
7 |
-none- |
'Chief' 61ci (1000cc) first year, tho sold oct
'21 |
| 1922 |
Model NP |
TP001- |
2 |
8 |
-none- |
'Powerplus' 72ci big valve
note
12 |
| 1922 |
Model T |
70T001- |
2 |
7 |
-none- |
'Powerplus' 61ci |
| 1922 |
Model T |
50T001- |
2 |
5 |
-none- |
'Scout' 37ci |
| 1921 |
Model NP |
SP001- |
2 |
8 |
-none- |
'Powerplus' 72ci big valve
note
12 |
| 1921 |
Model S |
70S001- |
2 |
7 |
-none- |
'Powerplus' 61ci |
| 1921 |
Model S |
50S001- |
2 |
5 |
-none- |
'Scout' 37ci |
| 1920 |
Model NP |
RP001- |
2 |
8 |
-none- |
'Powerplus' 72ci big valve
note
12 |
| 1920 |
Model N |
70R001- |
2 |
7 |
-none- |
'Powerplus' 61ci |
| 1920 |
Model R |
50R001- |
2 |
5 |
-none- |
'Scout' 37ci -
[first model year] |
| 1919 |
Model MP |
MP001- |
2 |
8 |
-none- |
'Powerplus' 72ci,
8hp, big valve |
| 1919 |
Model M |
70M001- |
2 |
7 |
-none- |
'PowerPlus', 61ci, 7hp, 2nd series |
| 1919 |
Model M |
40M001- |
1 |
4 |
-none- |
'PowerPlus', 30.5ci single,loop frame, |
| 1919 |
Model M |
30M001- |
2 |
2.5 |
-none- |
2½hp, loop frame,
twin cyl,
ci=? |
| 1918 |
Model K |
KRX001- |
2 |
?? |
-none- |
?hp, loop frame, 2nd series,
special? |
| 1918 |
Model N |
70K001- |
2 |
7 |
-none- |
'Powerplus' 61ci |
| 1918 |
Model B |
50K001- |
2 |
4 |
-none- |
‘Little Twin’ 42ci, Hedstrom f-head
motor note 17 |
| 1918 |
Model W |
40K001- |
1 |
4 |
-none- |
'PowerPlus', 33.5ci single,
commercial |
| 1918 |
Model 0 |
30K001- |
2 |
2.75 |
-none- |
‘Light Twin’ 15.7ci,
(Horizontally opposed motor) |
| 1917 |
Model J |
RX001- |
2 |
7 |
-none- |
7hp, loop frame,
special? |
| 1917 |
Model N |
70J001- |
2 |
7 |
-none- |
'Powerplus' 2nd model year for 61ci (1000cc) |
| 1917 |
Model B |
50J001- |
2 |
4 |
-none- |
‘Little Twin’ 42ci, Hedstrom f-head
motor note 17 |
| 1917 |
Model W |
40J001- |
1 |
4 |
-none- |
'PowerPlus', single,4hp, 33.5ci commercial model |
| 1917 |
Model O |
30J001- |
2 |
2.75 |
-none- |
Light Twin’ 15.7ci,
(Horizontally opposed motor) |
| 1916 |
Model G |
70H001- |
2 |
7 |
-none- |
'Powerplus' first model year for L-head 61ci
with cradle spring frame. |
| 1916 |
Model F |
70H001- |
2 |
7 |
-none- |
'Powerplus' first model year for L-head 61ci
model with rigid frame. |
| 1916 |
Model B |
50H001- |
2 |
5 |
-none- |
‘Little Twin’ 42ci, Hedstrom f-head
motor note 17 |
| 1916 |
Model K |
20H001- |
1 |
2.5 |
-none- |
Featherweight" 2½hp, loop frame,
two stroke |
| 1915 |
Model C |
70G001- |
2 |
7 |
-none- |
7hp, loop frame, Big Twin, 1st series 6ci |
| 1915 |
Model B |
50G001- |
2 |
4 |
-none- |
Little Twin, 2nd series,
7hp, loop fr,
note 4, chrome vanadium frames! |
| 1915 |
Model E |
40G001- |
2 |
4 |
-none- |
‘Little Twin’ 42ci, Hedstrom f-head
motor note 17 |
| 1914 |
Model F |
70F001- |
2 |
7 |
-none- |
7hp, loop frame, twin,
1st series, Hendee electric starter offered! |
| 1914 |
Model F |
40F001- |
1 |
4 |
-none- |
4hp, loop frame, single, electrics fitted! |
| 1913 |
Model E |
70E001- |
2 |
7 |
-none- |
7hp, loop frame, twin, yes & 80E0001 up as
32,000+ were built. note 8 |
| 1913 |
Model E |
40E001- |
1 |
4 |
-none- |
4hp, loop frame, single, cradle spring rear
frame, rigid still avail. |
| 1912 |
Model D |
70D001- |
2 |
7 |
-none- |
7hp, loop frame, twin, rigid rear only. |
| 1912 |
Model D |
40D001- |
1 |
4 |
-none- |
4hp, loop frame, single, first for kick
starter! |
| 1911 |
Model C |
70C001- |
2 |
7 |
-none- |
7hp, loop frame, 2nd series, improved carb
jets! |
| 1911 |
Model C |
40C001- |
1 |
4 |
-none- |
4hp, loop frame, 2nd series |
| 1911 |
Model C |
20C001- |
2 |
5 |
-none- |
5hp, loop frame, twin, 1st series |
| 1911 |
Model B |
1C001- |
1 |
2.75 |
-none- |
2¾hp, loop fr. sgle, 1st series, int and ext
brakes, knock out rear axle! |
| 1910 |
Model B |
70B001- |
2 |
7 |
-none- |
7hp, loop frame, 2nd series |
| 1910 |
Model B |
40B001- |
1 |
4 |
-none- |
4hp, loop frame, 2nd series, footboards and
front axles fitted!! |
| 1910 |
Model B |
1B01- |
1 |
2.75 |
-none- |
2¾hp, loop fr. sgle, 1st series, mech. oilers
mutidisc clutch fitted!! |
| 1909 |
-none- |
IOA001- |
1 |
3.5 |
-none- |
3½hp, loop frame, single, 1st series, 26.96ci
(440cc) |
| 1909 |
-none- |
IA01- |
1 |
2.75 |
-none- |
2¾hp, loop frame, 19.30ci (315cc) |
| 1909 |
-none- |
70A001- |
2 |
7 |
-none- |
7hp, loop frame, 2nd series, Big Twin, 61ci
(1000cc) |
| 1909 |
-none- |
40A001- |
1 |
4 |
-none- |
4hp, loop frame, 2nd series, 30.50ci (500cc),
hand brake introduced! |
| 1909 |
-none- |
20A001- |
2 |
5 |
-none- |
5hp, loop frame, twin, 38.61ci
(630cc), first 2spd transmission! |
| 1908 |
-none- |
T500-T1200 |
2 |
5 |
-none- |
5hp, diamond frame |
| 1907 |
-none- |
T100-T499 |
2 |
3.5 |
-none- |
3½hp, diamond frame, first production v-twin! |
| 1907 |
-none- |
5000- |
1 |
2.25 |
-none- |
2¼hp, diamond frame, first yr of
mechanically operated valves! |
| 1906 |
-none- |
2350-4048 |
1 |
2.5 |
-none- |
2½hp, diamond frame |
| 1905 |
-none- |
1168-2349 |
1 |
2.25 |
-none- |
2¼hp, diamond frame, also a light weight twin
cyl |
| 1904 |
-none- |
621-1167 |
1 |
1.75 |
-none- |
1¾hp, diamond frame, first yr of spring front
and tandem attachment! |
| 1903 |
-none- |
244-620 |
1 |
1.75 |
-none- |
1¾hp, diamond frame, first yr of handlebar
controls! |
| 1902 |
-none- |
101-243 |
1 |
1.75 |
-none- |
1¾hp diamond frame,
first chain transmission! |
| 1901 |
-none- |
-none- |
1 |
1.75 |
-none- |
1¾hp diamond frame
90lbs!!, Indian Carb! |
Engine Number Series and Year decoding.
Top Greg Cooney
| J |
A |
B |
C |
D |
E |
F |
G |
H |
I |
| 0 |
1 |
2 |
3 |
4 |
5 |
6 |
7 |
8 |
9 |
|
Frame |
| Arrow |
1xx |
| Scout/Warrior/TT |
2xx |
| Chief |
3xx |
|
1950 -1953
Top
Midstream the 1950 Chief serial numbers changed from CEJ
to just C on BOTH engines and frames, upsetting the rules as shown
in the 1932-1950 table below . Early 50's Chiefs were CEJ, late '50 and'
51 Chiefs were just 'C', and all '52 and '53 Chiefs were 'CS' .
When this change happened all vertical twins also had frame numbers
matching the engine exactly too. Examples :
Eng# BEJ911,
Frame # 250911 is 1950 Warrior.
Eng# B1003, Frame # B1003 is 1951 Warrior.
Top
|
| |
A |
B |
C |
D |
E |
F |
G |
H |
I |
| 0 |
1 |
2 |
3 |
4 |
5 |
6 |
7 |
8 |
9 |
|
Frame |
| Jr. Scout |
5xx |
| Std Scout, & VT |
2xx |
| Sport Scout, MP |
6xx |
| 101 Scout |
101 |
| 741 (mil) |
741 |
| 841 (mil) |
841 |
| Chief |
3xx |
| Indian 4 |
4xx |
MP=Motoplane (in Jr.Scout frame)
VT=Vertical Twins excl Arrow. |
1932 -1950
Frame Numbers introduced late 1930 early 1931 (see
note 9) Top
Example: we have an unknown motor (or cycle) that's stamped CDF 6403
and a spare frame stamped 441 1089 <work in
reverse, i.e. numerals to letters using table or your fingers!>1st
letter is C, this is the series,
all Chiefs are 3, Fours are 4 etc (see table left)
2nd letter D is the decade year 4
and the
3rd letter F is the digit year 6
Answers:
Motor is 1946
Chief, Serial# 6403 (6303rd*
made!)
Frame is 1941
Four, Serial# 1089, (989th*
made!) *as first machine started at
xxx101
In order for a cycle to have 'matching numbers', the frame number must
match the engine number and the first three numeric digits of the frame
number equal the decoded motor number. i.e. for our example, the frame
would have to read 346 6403. see Frame
Numbers section Top
|
| |
A |
B |
C |
D |
E |
F |
| Yr |
'26 |
'27 |
'28 |
'29 |
'30 |
'31 |
|
Engine |
| Prince 21ci |
L |
| Scout 37ci |
G |
| Scout 45ci |
GP |
| Chief 61ci |
Z |
| Big Chief 74ci |
H |
| Four 1926/7 |
E |
| Four 1928-1931 |
A |
|
1926 -1931 Top
Indian lost the plot for a few years between 1925 and 1933 with
their numbering, possibly exacerbated by the 101 series 'no new model
years', the Ace acquisition and how to incorporate frame numbers in
1930/31 which I will ignore in this scenario.
Examples:
AH1088 is a 1926
Big Chief, 74ci, serial 1088
(similarly, AZ1088 would be 1926 61ci)
BGP1055 is a
1927 Scout, 45ci, serial 1055
(similarly, BG1055 would be 1927 Scout 37ci)
EA779 is a 1930
Four, serial 779
(similarly, BL779 would be 1926 Prince) Top
|
Model/hp (Hendee/Indian)
1= 2½hp single
2 = 5hp twin or 2½hp single
3 = 4hp twin or 2½hp twin,
or 21ci Prince single
4 = 4hp single or 30.5ci Pplus
5 = 7hp twin or Scout
37"
7 = 7hp twin or 61ci
PowerPlus
8 = 8hp twin or Chief 61ci
9 = Chief 74ci or 72ci Powerplus
Years Example
A=1909
B=1910
C=1911
D=1912
E=1913 Ex.3
F=1914
G=1915
H=1916
J=1917
K=1918
M=1919 Ex.2
R=1920
S=1921
T=1922
V=1923
X=1924 Ex.1
Y=1925
(I, L, N-Q, U & W not used.)
also see note 12 for ?Pxxx models (where ?=R,S,T or V) |
1909
-1925 hang on it gets a little tougher now!. Top
Its a little like an odometer that clocks over in units, tens,
hundreds and thousands and tens of thousands. You may find it easier
to pay attention to the year first, then look at table and determine the
models for that year, see Example 2.
Example 1 - 51X107
Take the engine number 51X107
which breaks down to:
5 is Scout 37", (because of
X) then because the second number is not zero (as it would be if
serial < 1000) we add it (1000)
to the serial 107 making it 1,107,
The X is the year 1924. So it
is a 1924 Scout with a engine serial of 1107...
eg. a serial of 54X155 would be the same model and yr with
a serial of 4,155.
similarly, a serial of 67X157 would be the same model and yr
with a serial of 17,157.Example 2 - 72M911
Take the engine number 72M911
which breaks down to:
'72
equals 7 &2
and think of this as 2000
(thousandths digit)
The M is the year 1919. The
7 is a 61ci Powerplus (because of
the M) and the
remaining 2000 is the thousandths unit
of the engine number whereby adding it to 911 gives us 2,911.
So it is a 1919 Indian Powerplus with a engine serial of 2911...
similarly, a serial of 81M177 would be the same model and yr
with a serial of 11177.
Example 3 - 86E630 <please see
note 8>
Take the engine number 86E630
which breaks down to:
86
equals 7 &10+6,
think of this as 10000 (ten thousandths
digit, i.e 70xxx-80xxx), then add this PLUS the
6000 (thousandths) to the 630 it gives
us16,630.
The E is the year 1913. The
7 is a 7hp Hendee twin. So it is
a 1913 7hp Twin with a engine serial of 16630...
similarly, a serial of 70E433 would be the same model and yr
with a serial of 433. Top
|
1902 101-243
1903 244-620
1904 621-1167
1905 1168-2349
1906 2350-4048 |
1902 -1908 Top
There was no commercial sales in 1901 but numbering began 1902
starting at #101 and remaining in sequence to #4048 until 1906. This gives
us an insight into production numbers. From this point till 1909 as the
database illustrates, its anyone's guess what someone was dreaming up!
Top |
Engine number suffixes Top
"A letter may be stamped after the engine number (but off to
right of boss itself, i.e. on crankcase): these letters are:-
A is for aluminum pistons which were optional over std cast iron
pistons in scout 45"in 1928 see note 5
B is for Battery ignition (distributor). (post 1933,
see below note) ...BUT
B was also used (briefly)
to denote blackout lighting fitted by the factory on mil. cycles during
WWII. see note 6
B also designated aluminum piston and/or special
clearances for performance and/or sustained speeds on pre '28".
B also designated
aluminum piston, chief carb (DLX81?), chief valve
springs and chief inlet nipples/manifold used on
special factory 101 Scouts.
BM is for Bonneville Motor.
BY is for Battery (Distributor)
ignition on 'Y' motors, i.e.. Y manifolds, trench heads
(Ricardo) etc - mostly mid 30's models.
M is for Magneto ignition.
MY is for Magneto
ignition on 'Y' motors, - rare, mostly
mid thirties models.
Frame number locations (also see
note 9) Top
'31 and up rigid frames are on a boss just below the left
ear axle slot,
'40 spring frames are on the left rear shock casting
above the axle slot,
'41 through '51 are on the lower left shock mounting ring,
'52 through '53 are on the front face of the right front footboard
casting mount. thanks to John Welch
'49-'52 VT's (=Vertical Twins), i.e Scouts, Warriors/ TT's and
Arrows, have the frame serial on the front forks.
'34-'42 DT's (=Dispatch Tows), i.e 3 wheel Sports Scouts have
the frame # under the seat on the frame casting.
Matching Numbers
"The practice of re-stamping frames to match engines to
make a 'matching number machine ' an vice versa often results in the frame
number being exactly the same as the engine number, eg CDF 4321 and CDF
4321. In actual fact the frame would have been stamped, in this case, 346
4321. This is often the single most giveaway as Indian did not match
serials on chiefs till mid 1950, watch out for this on ebay!"
|
Production Numbers <UNDER CONSTRUCTION>
Much of this data has been gleamed from Jerry Hatfield - but we still need
more info please.
key to notes
sc=sidecars, nr=no records?, co=chiefs
only, ap=approximate
| Year |
Qty |
Note |
Year |
Qty |
Note |
Year |
Qty |
Note |
|
1901 |
3 |
|
1919 |
21,500 |
|
1937 |
6,037 |
|
|
1902 |
143 |
|
1920 |
? |
nr |
1938 |
3,650 |
|
|
1903 |
376 |
|
1921 |
? |
nr |
1939 |
3,012 |
|
|
1904 |
596 |
|
1922 |
? |
nr |
1940 |
10,431 |
|
|
1905 |
1,181 |
|
1923 |
? |
nr |
1941 |
8,739 |
|
|
1906 |
1,698 |
|
1924 |
? |
nr |
1942 |
16,647 |
|
|
1907 |
2,176 |
|
1925 |
? |
nr |
1943 |
16,456 |
|
|
1908 |
3,257 |
|
1926 |
? |
nr |
1944 |
17,006 |
|
|
1909 |
4,771 |
|
1927 |
? |
nr |
1945 |
2,070 |
|
|
1910 |
6,137 |
|
1928 |
? |
nr |
1946 |
3,621 |
|
|
1911 |
9,763 |
|
1929 |
? |
nr |
1947 |
11,849 |
|
|
1912 |
19,500 |
|
1930 |
? |
nr |
1948-49 |
9,000 |
ap |
|
1913 |
32,000 |
|
1931 |
4,557 |
|
1949 |
? |
nr |
|
1914 |
25,000 |
|
1932 |
2,360 |
|
1950 |
2000+ |
co,ap |
|
1915 |
21,000 |
sc=3,200 |
1933 |
1,667 |
|
1951 |
500+ |
co,ap |
|
1916 |
22,000 |
sc=3,700 |
1934 |
2,809 |
|
1952 |
500+ |
| | |